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Thousands of drink-drivers reoffend

Discussion in '2 & 4 Wheels' started by Mad Lab Rat, Sep 27, 2013.

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    Mad Lab Rat

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    Hardly a shock! I'd expect it to be higher.
     
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    Surely as soon as caught, you should have to get one of those things that is a breathalyser that stops the car working if you're over the limit?

    By making the offender pay for it you make the punishment pay for itself!
     
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    If you jail them for ten years then that tends to ensure they don't do it again for at least ten years.

    Simples...
     
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    And cost £400,000.00. The annual cost of a prison place being about £40,000.00 per annum.
     
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    And the cost of killing someone by crashing into them?

    The deterrent will work. :)
     
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    It's already a 14 year sentence for killing someone whilst drunk driving, so I guess your deterrence - like all deterrents - don't work.

    If you think about it for a while, you'll be able to work out why.
     
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    It's not a ten year sentence for drink driving last time I looked.
     
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    So according to Government figures there were 1.6 drinking and driving offences per 1,000 population in the UK in 2010. That 96,000 offences. That means 96,000 extra prison places for one year. Let's assume this measure works to some extent and drink driving is halved over a 10 year period. After 10 years we would have approximately 750,000 people serving 10 year sentences. According to Government figures it cost about £116,000 to provide an extra prison place plus about £40,000 per annum to maintain a prison place.

    So we have a bill of £87bn to provide the extra places and a bill of about £30bn per annum for service these places after ten years. So over the entire 10 year period of the initial project it would cost £387bn. That's a pretty hefty bill for something that may or may not work.
     
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    That figure is based on if everyone offending is convicted. With such a stiff sentence in place, the message will get through and, I'll wager, a whole lot fewer people will offend. Where it doesn't get through, the offenders (sorry; criminals) will have a long time for "rehabilitation".

    We spend £180Bn per year on funding the EU and a billion pounds every month on "overseas aid" so, evidently, we have the spare cash.
     
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    As Mark Twain said there are "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics". The UK's NET contribution to the EU budget in 2011 was 4.7bn Euro's so about £4bn pounds. If you include "additional revenues" from specific levies and taxes this does rise to about £13bn.

    Germany is by far the highest net contributor with contributions in 2011 of about 7.5bn Euros. France is second. The EU makes payments back to the UK in terms of a rebate of about 3.6bn Euros each year (thanks to Thatcher's negotiations in 1984). The French alone give us back 1bn Euros per annum thanks to this refund.
     
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    So, we're still out of pocket and/or oodles of spare cash then? ;)
     
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    Not £400bn though. That's almost enough to bale out a Bank!
     
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    As it's Christmas here's a thought. Why don't we cordon off a whole county and put all the drink 'n' drive crew there to live ? That way they don't feel punished and the rest of us can stop worrying about them. The new county will become self regulating by it's very nature and there will always be room for a new batch of drunk drivers. I leave it to someone to suggest the most appropriate county to convert but maybe one that is very flat and where there are a lot of straight roads ?
     

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