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I've just started using Google Adwords and Bing Adcentre for traffic. I'm inexperienced in this field and would appreciate a few pointers etc. At this early stage it looks like Adwords keywords are too expensive for me to get any realistic traffic for my shallow pockets, so I've switched to using Managed placements (CPM) cost per thousand imp's on certain high traffic UK sites that are 'somewhat' related to my keywords.

I am not using any keywords with these ad-groups, just the text in my ads to attract a click. Between 6-7 thousand impressions between 5 selected/targeted sites with the placement tool and Im only getting a few clicks. I wonder how many impressions it takes to get a few visits from (CPC) and (CPM)?

Am I barking up the wrong tree here by using Googles display network's set of websites to get 'site targeted' traffic? Maybe I've placed my ads on the wrong websites - because Im not selecting sites that are too tightly related to my product/keywords etc. Or should I?

My Bing Adcentre experience is strange as I've picked really 'competitive Google keywords' and they are placed on the 1st page of their search engine for relatively cheap cost - and I only get a few clicks here and there.

I know Bing get very low search volume, but I seem to get a few more visits from them than I do with G Adwords, but it's still overall very low. I am now studying all sorts of ppc blogs for info/advice - Im certainly not going to throw more £ at Google for low return.

Any suggestions or advice would be very welcome.
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Bing is cheaper because their reach is less. Bing+yahoo has about 10% of the search market, while google has 90%. I know that some people aruge that it's more 30:70, but beleive me I've done plenty of PPC campaigns and have a couple of high traffic websites to gauge the actual traffic referrals with.

Bing can be cheaper because of lower competition, adwords is the no1 go to place, where is bing and yahoo tend to be afterthoughts.

I agree with you adwords can be OTT expensive. There are some retailers who are willing to bid up to and beyond the margins for a product. This is paticularly the case with cosmetics because they know that they can upsell and cross sell other products.

I worked with a footcream retailer who spend £4 per conversion on a low cost £9.99 foot cream. It's ridiculous that the margins are so high on this, but there are other high street retailers like boots, pharmacy2u and other chains who can bid up the cost price really high because although they might only advertise a foot cream, in actual fact the basket purchase tends to be a lot more. So customer/visitor might end up buying other related products and making impulse purchases, if only just to get the minimum amount to qualify for free p&p.

So one top I would say is improve conversation rates, captures leads in order to retarget the same consumer with follow up emails.

Also adwords requires skill, you need to be experienced with keyword research, campaign setup and performance optimisation. There's a whole minefield of information about this that I won't get into.
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Google has the most reach, bing is okay but i prefer Google. Facebook is also okay but it need to become more successful to become useful
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And, personally... I would go with the CPC rather than CPM - it's much cheaper long term.
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