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Can anyone explain Joomla? Is it a web 'kit' of sorts? What are the pros and cons?
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Our main website is joomla based.

I had grave misgivings at first but I have to concede that it is easy to update (just like a wordpress blog), easy to change it's entire appearance (just like a wordpress blog), easy to add bits that do clever extra stuff (just like a wordpress blog), and generally, because each posting has a full permalink, it is easily found by search engines (just like a wordpress blog).

You may have noticed that I keep comparing it to a wordpress blog...

That's because it is very similar to a wordpress blog, but a little harder to understand and manipulate.

I do like the brilliantly clever way you can change it's look with a single mouse click, and how everything moves around if you add and remove bits to acommodate the change.

What is it, this joomla... it it just a database driven site that seems to be very, very search engine friendly. If I could just understand how to integrate a forum into my joomla site as some people have done (but try as I might - it won't work for me!), it would be an almost perfect way to build a successful website
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He he, went to view your site Ray, and signed up for your newsletter.

ps after subscribing, it said click her to close window but it closed the site down, - I thought it would just shut down the subscribe window cos I wanted to have a browse. Not sure if you want to change that to 'click here to return to the website' instead?
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He he, went to view your site Ray, and signed up for your newsletter.

ps after subscribing, it said click her to close window but it closed the site down, - I thought it would just shut down the subscribe window cos I wanted to have a browse. Not sure if you want to change that to 'click here to return to the website' instead?
I didn't realize that - thanks for pointing it out. Joomla uses a special module to connect with Aweber and builds my list there. However, it doesn't use all the Aweber bits - joomla uses it's own signup form, not the Aweber one I set up! All sorted now though. I have set up a special thankyou page on the site itself so the prospect never leaves the site at all and no longer sees the default Aweber page
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ah I see, well anyway a great site there Ray, I will be coming back to read some more info.
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Joomla is an award winning Content Management System (CMS). It allows you to do practically anything with it as long as you have the skills to develop. Without the skills to develop you can still do most things.
It runs on PHP and MySQL.
Its not really a web kit but a complete system.

If you have any specific questions i'll be happy to answer.

I actually build most websites with Joomla these days rather then hard coding the whole site from scratch.
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... of joomla for someone who doesn't want to spend all their day developing and reinventing the wheel is the extensions resource on Joomla! Extensions Directory

Some are commercial, others open source but they cover a huge range of functionality - almost everything you could possibly want! One big tip though is to check the reviews and full description before downloading...

I've done a few joomla based sites including
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I've done a few joomla based sites including
http://ledburyportal.co.uk
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I see the site includes a fireboard forum. Is there an idiot's guide to installation and set up of the forum to integrate into the main template that you know of and that I could follow??
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I see the site includes a fireboard forum. Is there an idiot's guide to installation and set up of the forum to integrate into the main template that you know of and that I could follow??
Manual link is here:
http://www.bestofjoomla.com/files/fi.../UserGuide.pdf
with full installation instructions. It's like installing any other extension through the joomla admin panel installer. No bridges, external sites, wrappers or integration needed.

It's not the only forum out there and it does depend on how much user hierarchy and forum flexibility you need as to whether it's the best for you.

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I tried to upload the fireboard file but it told me "unable to write entry"

I guess this is a permissions thing but foiled again!

I know fireboard isn't the only one out there but it is the only one that seems to use the template and look a part of the site - I guess it just isn't meant to be. I have installed a vanilla board and linked to it but again - I can't add any bits to the basic installation to pretty it up - and no-one has used it anyway
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I tried to upload the fireboard file but it told me \"unable to write entry\"

I guess this is a permissions thing but foiled again!

I know fireboard isn't the only one out there but it is the only one that seems to use the template and look a part of the site - I guess it just isn't meant to be. I have installed a vanilla board and linked to it but again - I can't add any bits to the basic installation to pretty it up - and no-one has used it anyway
If you're about this afternoon, I could give you a call to go over installing it?

and you know no one is going to use it until a) they know it's there and b) several of someone else has posted before them
after that it's down to this (funny but true post quoted by Niki) The Lifecycle of a mailing list / forum

Perhaps speak to you later

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sorry Tess, I have only just seen your kind offer.

Thanks for trying to help but it really isn't important just now. I will reserve the right to glean some info from you when the time is right - if that's ok
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no worries, glean away!

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Default Fireboard sorted - almost!

I mentioned to my web hosts (Carl Shepherdson CS New Media) that I needed to upgrade the joomla installation on my site but I couldn't get the installer to work - similar to the way I couldn't install fireboard. Some permissions hassle.

Anyway, he has spent quite a bit of time on this problem and tonight, he has solved it and fireboard is now installed - all I have to do now is learn how to set it up

So, the moral to this thread is, if you are considering a joomla site, make sure you host the site with Carl's business - in fact host all your sites with Carl. His willingness to help, his tenacity to get to the root of problems is now historic with me and I never get fed up with saying it.

You rock, Carl
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Joomla is good and the impressive list of modules you can add is rivalled by very few other content management systems .

The only downside to joomla is it seems to attract hackers i suppose its the price of its popularity.

I must say the security team at joomla is brilliant they quickly plug most security holes when they are discovered. If you keep upto date you will be fine.
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I tried to upload the fireboard file but it told me \\"unable to write entry\\"

I guess this is a permissions thing but foiled again!
Permissions on the file system are critical with Joomla, if one is to have both full functionality and security. Risks otherwise are that it will drive you mad with 'unable to write' messages, or it will be open to hacking.

In fact php also needs to be set up correctly. If you read the Joomla.org forums there is plenty of mention of this.

Best bet is to go with a host that is Joomla aware, and can take care of these issues.
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I'm just redoing my site at Fast Staff UK Ltd Couriers and Leaflet Distribution

I am the least technical person around. I have to get my son to work the toaster but with a bit of help from my host I'm getting there. What I like is that as you inevitably make some mistakes, you simply go back and delete them. I know it will never be a hugely fantastic site, but I'm proud of the "shell" so far.

Guess what I'm doing this weekend!

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Nice template.

Something you might consider is removing the references to Joomla at the foot of each page. That will get indexed by google and it's one of the ways hackers find sites to hack.
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Nice template.

Something you might consider is removing the references to Joomla at the foot of each page. That will get indexed by google and it's one of the ways hackers find sites to hack.
Cheers for that, another job to add to the To-Do list!

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Something you might consider is removing the references to Joomla at the foot of each page. That will get indexed by google and it's one of the ways hackers find sites to hack.
I have been trying to do this for ages but can't find where inside the admin section I can do this from.

Any help will be much appreciated
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Depends how it is being published by your template.

Go to Template>Edit>Preview to see which modules are where.

When you know which module, go to Extensions>Module Manager and click on the appropriate module to edit it.

All the above assumes Joomla 1.5.x
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I have been trying to do this for ages but can't find where inside the admin section I can do this from.

Any help will be much appreciated
If you mean the 'powered by Joomla' text and link normally seen in the footer, there is no admin back end way to do this. You will need to make a small tweak to this file in the relevant template sub-folder e.g.

your_joomla_install/templates/your_active_template/index.php

Joomla don't make it easy for you to do as having their name and link on your site is the only thing they ask for in return for a powerful, extendable and free software (in both senses of the word). They are not especially keen if you're using a default template with all their images either.

The fact that a site is made in Joomla shows up in the source anyway so removing the 'powered by joomla' doesn't really help to hide your sites joomla based status from hackers.

By all means PM me if you need more details,

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Thanks Tess.

It's just that after reading the thread above I looked through the admin section for users - something I haven't done before. I found I have 114 registered users on the main site and forum.

It looks as if some people have been trying to get into my humble site and mess with it but so far - it still looks as unimpressive as normal!!

As you think removing the links will not make a difference to this activity I will leave it alone.

I actually like the joomla product. The site gets picked up a lot by google when people do their searches (for genuine stuff this time!) and that is way better than the old pre-joomla site ever did
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When I developed my site (so-called, e-commerce) I had a trade off between Joomla and Magento. I've chosen Magento as it provides more option for online store. But I was greatly impressed by Joomla features. I'm sure my next project will be using it.
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Sorry Ray, only just re-read this
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I found I have 114 registered users on the main site and forum.

It looks as if some people have been trying to get into my humble site and mess with it but so far - it still looks as unimpressive as normal!!
Are you expecting user registration on your site? do you have joomla set to ask you for approval before adding users?

If you don't want people to register, it's easy to turn off and if you want to approve every applicant you can set joomla to do that too. Control of both of these things is found in the general config in the admin section.

Other ways that users might be added is through SQL injection or other vulnerabilities but as long as you are running the latest version (1.5.9 or 1.0.15) you should be fine.
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