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Old 28-09-2008, 10:09 AM
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Is it still possible for plumbers to carry on trade without insurance or minimum qualifications? Are the laws being tightened-up in light of the influx of Eastern European workers? Or is the UK customer still at risk from unskilled and uninsured tradesmen?
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Old 28-09-2008, 09:29 PM
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Default Plumbers - do they still exist?

Twice recently I have tried desperately to get a plumber to sort out a mains water problem and a totally blocked with p##p toilet that needed urgent attention.

On neither occasion was I successful and I was left to deal with the situations as best I could.

Plumbers in Leicestershire seem to have evapourated into the ether.

If I find one, I'll let you know if they are english and insured or immigrants and illegal!

But if anyone in Leicestershire has a blocked toilet, I know where to get the gadget that will clear it

Plumbers - who needs em!
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The noble art of plumbing and heating has again come under the spotlight.
Unfortunately, plumbing isn’t regulated in this country, anyone in the UK can call themselves a plumber even if they don’t have any qualifications or experience or even insurance. However, all installers who are carrying out gas work should be registered with the gas installer registration scheme. This is currently arranged by CORGI but in April 2009 the scheme will be managed by Capita.

I’d advise consumers to be very careful when choosing someone to carry out work on their plumbing and heating system, they could be risking their family’s health. Remember, it may be tempting to pay someone cash in hand with no questions asked, but it may end up costing far more than you anticipated. With forthcoming changes to Building Regulations and Water Regulations it is becoming increasingly important to find out how up to date your plumber is.

The Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering (CIPHE) is the UK's professional body for the plumbing and heating engineering industry. As a registered educational charity with its primary aim being the advancement of plumbing standards in the public interest, the Institute recommends all those entering the industry should aim to gain the NVQ Level 3 qualification.

On average, a student on a full time college course will spend 3 years full-time or 4 years part-time training to become a plumber. The student needs to be well versed in theory, Water Regulations, Building Regulations, Health and Safety Regulations and attain the practical skill needed to carry out plumbing work to a high standard. Practical skills are learnt through repetition and over time through the extensive work experience needed to pass NVQ Levels 2 and 3. Intensive short courses, which are often advertised in newspapers, are not suited to give this kind of education and are often very expensive.

Competition for a college place is fierce; indeed it is often harder than getting into university. This has led to the rise of intensive courses which may be suited to some disciplines, however, not for those entering into the plumbing and heating industry, where practical skill along with the mass of theory and Regulations knowledge takes years to learn. There is no doubting the fact that there are no short-cuts to becoming a competent plumber or heating engineer. Your best safeguard is always “Ask to see the CIPHE”.

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Old 29-09-2008, 07:51 PM
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Will i be able to copy and paste that onto my forum please mate? thought i better ask!

Great info there, i have had three people register and get removed because they have registered as a "plumber", once i explained what i wanted to see, i amazingly got the answers of "oh i didnt know i need that" and "how do i get one of them then" Oh please!!!
It is just disgraceful, i dread to think what will happen, i am sure these people get away with being on other websites, it really is not good!!

CORGI CORGI CORGI people, ask to SEE their id Please!!
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Yes feel free to copy my observations.

There are many people, male and female, wishing to take up plumbing and heating as a profession. Sometimes it might be their second or third career but in any event as long as they can devote a number of years to carry out the training it is a wonderful vocation.
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Yes feel free to copy my observations.

There are many people, male and female, wishing to take up plumbing and heating as a profession. Sometimes it might be their second or third career but in any event as long as they can devote a number of years to carry out the training it is a wonderful vocation.
Thanks Kevin, i have also included your link.
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Kevin, i have posted it again on my new forum-Tradesmens Network, just letting you know as the yourlocaltrades forum will be offline shortly and this will be the main forum form now on(TradesmensNetwork). Again it has an active link to your website.

Many Thanks
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